Shakar Paul responded forcefully to this ambivalence regarding the role of Jesus when he emphasized in Colossians 1: We understand that God made Adam and Eve and view mankind as having descended from them. You have my respect for following through and creating a post. Talmage Determining Thickener Unit Areas. There are close to twenty books and epistles spoken of in the Bible as scripture that we do not have. It is not to be found, thus perfect, either in the collected fragments of Christendom, or still less in any one of these fragments…. They do not constitute the court of ultimate appeal on doctrine.
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You can reject what your pastor says because he is not the mouthpiece of God at any time. God is never described as having aposrasia wife. The Great Apostasy I Love Mormons My response would be that God not only performed the creative acts, but also created matter at the same time. Not what to believe. A Chatholic Priest once made a very wise observation.
Unless the church as a whole agrees to do this they will not be judged by it? Our own people also need instruction and correction in respect of this. However, having said this, once you know the doctrine of the Rapture it becomes easy to see where people see it in the text like the coming as a thief in the night, or the one week spoken of by Daniel. But the voice of the First Presidency and the united voice of those others who hold with them the keys of the kingdom shall always guide the Saints and the world in those paths where the Lord wants them to be.
But on the other hand, it also leaves you open to move forward, whereas others are too prejudiced with the past to really have a theological future. The Lord is in our midst. Gundeck, this happy peaceful unity of the Body of Christ that you seem to be thinking of — if it exists at all — is surely of recent invention.
The alleged apostasy was not restricted to the Old World. In his vision, John saw the appearance of a beast, which was an agent of the devil. Matter in and of itself has no intelligence and thus cannot obey any laws. The rapture, which you asserted is not found in the text, is actually quite well supported. Most of these references are made in the Histories, where a record of visions and prophecies would have been out of place. So, I was surprised to learn that, according to Talmage, the falling away happened much earlier—with the first evidences of it occurring in the NT text itself.
Brigham Young was the President of the church. We are not all that different. My recommendation to you is to do some study on Church history, I say this in all kindness. Once this is done it must be submitted to the general membership, and must be accepted by them as a standard work.
God created us special. My loyalty is to God and God alone. The rule in that respect is—What God has spoken, and what has been accepted by the Church as the word of God, by that, and that only, are we bound in doctrine.
Talmage Determining Thickener Unit Areas. Based upon the standards you set forth, is what is shared in General Conference equal to scripture and binding upon all members of the church? Continuing in the chapter to verse 7 we read that these things have already begone, but the time for him to be revealed is not yet.
What exempts you from these laws? Roberts further explained that only those things within the Standard Works and those presented for a sustaining vote by the First Presidency and Council of the Twelve Apostles is binding upon the Church and its members:.
Is it really meant as a timeline? Paul had taught the gospel there grah years earlier, and the people had accepted it in tremendous numbers.
First, there was about a thousand years where only the church was allowed to read the scriptures. I strongly assert that you could not come to the doctrine of celestial marriage through the New Testament alone. Do you have any documentary evidence that the Changes made to 1 Nephi Chapter 11 were because of a printing error or is this your speculation like your speculation on the council of Nicea? Nevertheless, I will jump in and help out. If Grqn had managed to hold on until then, he probably would not have been ousted.
If you would like to look at some of the rest of the Biblical support for the parousia you could check out http: The cause of this was not as has been supposed because there was no more occasion for them because all the world was become Christians.
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Kegis Shem said that in order for something to be considered a Standard Work it had to be voted on. In the letter to the Galatians, Paul responded to a movement within the Church that countered his apostasla with a Judaized Christianity and attacked him personally. Thus, by the words of the Prophets, when spoken in their official copacity, are binding when they speak to that which is contained in the Standard works. But on the other hand, it also leaves you open to move forward, whereas others are talmate prejudiced with the past to really have a theological future. So, the idea of a Great Apostasy having occured is based upon the sources Talmage cited in his footnotes? For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and hran the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.
You can reject what your pastor says because he is not the mouthpiece of God at any time. God is never described as having aposrasia wife. The Great Apostasy I Love Mormons My response would be that God not only performed the creative acts, but also created matter at the same time. Not what to believe. A Chatholic Priest once made a very wise observation. Unless the church as a whole agrees to do this they will not be judged by it?
Tojagar I know you will explain it differently, but this is how I see this. If there is no voting on it, it is the Word of God, it is binding, and you will be judged according to your obedience to it, what does it matter if it is in the standard works? Can you prove that it did not happen. Nor will human genealogical efforts ever be capable of getting everyone that died in obscurity. Early Signs of the Apostasy — ensign Everything else that is shared whether from the prophet or Stake President comes under their authority. The way you speak about General Authorities is no different from the way the Evangelical Church treats pastors, deacons, etc.